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38 practice ammo feels like .22lr. It could be easier. mamaliberty at rtconnect dot net – just replace at and dot with the appropriate symbols and eliminate the spaces. I am to the point, that except for a pump shotgun (Ruger does not make one) I only own Rugers, got rid of everything else. Will start my wife on 38 S&W in it and graduate up through 357 HP. If you have to shoot a hostage taker in the head at 25 yards it would be well worth taking the time to get the shot right. The SP101 .22LR. But if you have a spare gun I have a harbor freight mig :). With products made in America, Ruger offers consumers almost 800 variations of more than 40 product lines. I know that the old. Thanks for the writeup. (8 lbs Main spring) Also did the lighter spring thing, with no adverse effects and a nicer trigger pull. The three-inch barrel and all stainless steel construction provide more weight which also helps dampen recoil. Smith is ok, but when I am spending my money it is Ruger that gets the nod! Maybe not a big deal with a 9mm but helps with the 40. Cock the hammer  or pull the trigger  half way to expose a pin hole at the bottom of the hammer strut. Hello, I'm thinking about getting a trigger job done on my SP101 8-shot 22lr. Now that the Brits are gone, and Smith’s contract with the Feds has been rejected, I have found it in my heart to forgive S&W. You better let Clint handle that one. It seems like the Ruger should have the lighter smoother trigger pull, but such is usually not the case. It’s all about getting them to take that first shot. Fits perfect in a day timer zip up folio along with a strip loader, Surefire flash light, spare batteries and a Swiss Army knife. The Wolff Springs, lightened it up some, but it made it smoother if nothing else. That's $315 less than had I sent it to Gemini Customs and I had to wait about a week instead of five months to get it back. Frankly, Ruger’s gun control sins are much less than that, and they were over with Bill Ruger’s death. Carry I tried Hogue grips: too bulky. After being worked over the double action trigger pull on this SP101 came in at 9.8 pounds. The first one I had purchased used and would start locking up after about 15 rounds. Take cover and let him run his 14 rounds out and then place 2 rounds 357 mag in his chest and fight will be over providing he not vested up. Send me an email, PubliusS (anyone, actually) and I’ll be glad to share the little book I wrote called “I Am NOT A Victim.” The first chapter is the story of the man I had to shoot to save my life. Over all, the revolver is much more difficult to shoot accurately without a lot of hand and arm strength, and a lot of practice. I'm not fond of the factory grip nor the Pachmayr option but the Hogue Monogrip is perfect for me. I sold it. We all need the practice more than we need bling. Are there ceramic or abrasive grit files out there? Mine also wears a Hogue grip and a little red lipstick on the front sight. I gravitated to revolvers in part because I realized the odds of getting into a prolonged shootout are extremely low, but I can shoot revolvers much more accurately, especially at longer ranges. With some competition triggers you may find that the pull is so light it is not heavy enough to reliably strike with the force necessary to fire all of the various primers on different ammo. I am well-armed with either. After you’ve got it to the desired shape, now is the time to put on the Lord of the Rings Trilogy directors cut, because you’re going to be there a while with all of the polishing. Best option is the Ruger Wiley Clapp SP101 with perfect sights and lots of practice. Picked up a new SP101 2 weeks ago, trigger pull was smooth but heavy, put in a Wilson Combat 10 lb. I’ve used all manner of firearms from military to muzzle loaders. by not having the hammer to rely … .357 magnum. We won’t even let the women thumbcock the revos they do try out, not unless they’re so beset with physical issues that they simply can’t shoot any other handgun any other way. If you have to a in in a panic situation you are dead simple as that. This is a hyperbole filled sexist rant that only reinforces the negative stereotypes of male gun owners. Type “self defense book” in the subject line so it goes to the right filter. You can use the pistol as a club!â.’. All you need is about five gallons of elbow grease to turn this Amish mule into a Budweiser Clydesdale. But for daughters first EDC, I’ll be following your advice, Mama. The SP101 is perfectly balanced and fires with no pull or lift. And it’s a mild mannered reporter with .38’s, great for introducing new shooters to revolvers. just laughs. Or maybe it’s just so heavy it absorbs the recoil well. So far a versa carry holster is all I have been using till I bought a Mini Trumpcard concealment holster. Ruger’s SP-101 has been my EDC for fifteen years. ð. S&W’s, with their light weight scandium alloys, need extra care, maintenance, and inspection. No other hand gun round has surpassed the effectiveness of this round not even the mighty 357 sig. Sure, but if you wear the strap cross-body, then you’ll have a pretty hard time deploying it as an improvised flail (not a mace) for “grabassers” as the review suggests…, I recall hearing about a company that made reinforced anti-strap cut purses. Overall It is a fantastic gun and very good looking IMO. Usually the double-action trigger pull of a revolver is too heavy to check with a Lyman’s digital trigger gauge, which has an upper limit of 12-lb. Those times require five rounds of hell’s fury and fireballs directly injected into the offender’s groin at 1500 FPS. I spent a few more dollars but not that many, I drove my 3" model to Mag-Na-Port and had them do some action work and invert the crown to protect accuracy over the years. hammer spring & trigger return spring. Same ammo with 25 rounds fired at 30 feet. They are more durable in some ways, but less so in others. I go by the original intent of the DA trigger that it’s for close in when fractions of a second count and if you need an accurate shot you should pull the hammer back (with your thumb that is). The trigger pull as it came out of the box was better than any S&W "J" frame pull I have ever experienced. I’m not worried about style, and my XD has all the “character” I want. I thought this is the way it should have come from the factory when I got it. I have given away more than 8,000 of these e-books, and would especially love to give it to every woman on the planet. Concealed Carry Handgunshttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OKlb6h7hvWY/SpR9N20cphI/AAAAAAAACWM/NYKcZRg-ID4/s400/Black+Border.jpg. Although, in a gun this small, I much prefer .38 Special rounds over .357. And small guns are harder still. They do work, but they aren’t as quick as a 3-dot. I went to the range today with my case of handguns, including my 7.25 Browning Hunter, known for accuracy at long range. You can have all the bells and whistles on your gun, but most gun fights happen within 10 yards or closer. They make the kind of sidearm you would want to take on your next hunting trip…even if it happened to be to the Underworld to put one round in each of Cerberusâs heads. Read on! I have the 4″ version with the fiber sights. (This is a reader gun review contest entry,Â click here for more details.). Well, that’s a matter of each to his/her own. Ergonomics Carry * * * * Small plain sights that disappear in sunlight and dusk. Glad you finally found your carry piece. They associate it with cowboys, and cops (Danny Glover Lethal Weapon) and it’s just less intimidating. Unfortunately, two fingers is not enough of a hold to control these man-stopper rounds, so I recommend a decent Hogue mono grip. And: does anyone know from experience where the perfect compromise is between the weight of the trigger return spring and hammer spring that will yield a good trigger pull with 100% reliability ? For home, kit, BUG, etc., I will use the LCRx 3″. We’re talking about making this into an Hattori Hanzo sword. Have already ordered the replacement grip and a few ammo variants. I have about 10 hrs of work in my SP 101 and would have loved it had someone told me to up the power on the trigger spring. My Ruger in the picture has had a set of springs that noticeably smoothed and reduced the triggers felt pull weight. It will be the last to be seized by the KKKalifornistas in Sackatomatos, so being simple and durable is good for long term storage too. Morale” I buy Smiths because they don’t require me to do the work that the factory should have. http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101DE/specSheets/5774.html. Kits include the various springs necessary to assure reliable function, smooth operation, consistency, and long life. This was mostly about how to make your SP101 into a S&W. Letting that thumb start upwards when the intent to fire comes can easily get them killed in a defensive situation. And it has to be true if it’s on the internet, right? I haven't been visiting much in the last few months because I truly hated the design changes you had made to the site so long ago. It has a lot of rounds through it, and I have no idea how many thousands of dry fires I've done. I’m not a woman, but I understand you put the long strap across your body to make it harder for the purse snatcher (yes, I also know about cutting the strap with a knife, etc, but if a bad guy gets close enough to you to be able to pull and use a knife–well, you will be lucky if all that happens is your purse gets snatched, whatever may be in it). Sometimes it’s nice to carry a little class with some flash. Still, even a Smith weenie like me knows that Ruger makes good revolvers. People are making S & W out to sound like a frail old lady that will break if you uses it. Clint’s enemies also had a habit of dropping dead the instant the bullets struck them, which might be a little optimistic for you and me. Either way, it’s very easy to shoot the SP101. 13-oz. I love Ruger and S&W – Ruger is heartier, S&W is more civilized. I had to follow up a shot with my 44 on a white tail where my buddy just wounded it with his 357. For instance when I first got my wife into shooting I caught her forgetting to remove the magazine before checking the chamber (thereby loading a round into the chamber while believing the chamber was empty). Thx Dan and all. Have you tried the modern compact revolvers that are specifically designed for carry? I had the pleasure of owning/shooting some good revolvers in my lifetime: Colt “Officers Model Match .38”, Smith & Wesson Combat Masterpiece .38, Smith “J” (old model) .38. But enough about those higher priced safety queens (see: trigger lock key). The Gemini Customs SP101 sported an XS Big Dot night sight which looked a little odd and contributed to the revolver shooting a bit low. Even with full power 180s my buddy's SP101 was more pleasant to shoot than my long-suffering S&W M49 Bodyguard is with 158 gr +P. However, your assessment of snubby short barrel belly gun sight uses leaves a little (or a lot) to be desired. If someone wants an easy to understand weapon and doesn’t want to put much into training and practice the revolver is still the best choice. The trigger guard bangs against the knuckle of my middle finger adding more pain. I decided years ago that the SP101 was the perfect small .357 magnum revolver. Is it OK to use files on stainless? I would buy it all over again. We could do side by side comparisons with dozens of guns. Loved the feel and the almost no trigger pull in the single action. The frame where the pawl drags both top and bottom. The areas to really pay attention to are the front of the barrel lug, under the muzzle, and the trigger guard. If youâre the type of pistol owner who is looking for a little more refinement and finesse, then the SP101 can be a bit of a diamond in the rough. But if you’ve got arthritis or can’t handle the recoil (or DA pull) for whatever reason, the .357 snubby is probably not your best choice. The only thing many women have trouble with on the semi-autos is manipulating the slide, and that is just a matter of practice and strengthening the hands. Wasn’t that a six round revolver ? As far as I know the J frames are still not built to take a steady diet of full power .357s like the SP so 2 extra ounces and a 1/8th inch of extra barrel doesn’t seem like something that was primarily designed as a club. What’s so impractical about a small revolver for everyday carry? LCR, Airweight S&W and so on. We- my extremely competent female partner (not a regular instructor, but a USPSA well-known) put on a lot of women’s classes. It’s not recommended you try to take a 50 yard head shot with this pistol, though the .357 round is more than capable. Style * * * * * You couldn’t be more right. Have a security six and even the heaviest buffalo bore fails to make it an unpleasant shooter. and extensive polishing of all the internals. M&P 9. The others are folks like me. My fifty years of revolver/pistol shooting has proven a 99.9999% need for sight proficiency with any hand gun – with barrels from 2″ to 6″ plus. It’s easier, less intimidating. The blued SP101 exhibited an 11 lbs. The grip on the LCRx 3″ is not my favorite. You can polish a Ruger to make it as shiny as a S&W but no amount of labor will make a S&W as strong as a Ruger. Last month I bought a brand new blue SP101 .357, and one of my cylinder chambers was bored too small also. and even buying nine different tools just to grind off the sharp edges! Search Ruger SP101 trigger job … Not sure if they do anymore, it might have been because they were trying to fit magnums on a frame that didn’t support them well. I sold it to a friend that wanted a gun for his wife. Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc. is one of the nation's leading manufacturers of rugged, reliable firearms for the commercial sporting market. BTW, Smith & Wesson told their customers to practice with .38 special for 4 decades until Ruger came out with the Security Six and they were forced to come up with a midsized revolver that could shoot .357 all day. I have 45s 9mm 22s 44s and just bought the sp101. The first stop is the grip. I did a “polish job” on a .38s Model 60 and it looks nice. What happens when you run out of ammo? Fancy guns are like anything else fancy-nice to look at, but a pain to use; I will take functional beauty any day.Yes, I have shot many Smiths and was not impressed with any of them-none had triggers any better than any of my Rugers. Anyway, he’s dead now and I personally don’t think that overshadows the fact that he was the closest thing to John Moses Browning since John Moses Browning. If you have enough money to buy the ammo you really don’t have to worry about the durability of a Smith. Rugers are working guns. The man I had to shoot was probably less than ten feet away… I’m alive because I had the shotgun pointed at him already. polished the hammer strut, SA & DA pulls much lighter & it still sets off every brand primer I've tried. The trigger pull is much more difficult DA on the revolver, and the recoil- even with .38sp – is more pronounced. I’ve carried a Ruger SP101 .357 for about ten years… at first as my primary EDC, but mostly as a backup gun since. Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc. is one of the nation's leading manufacturers of rugged, reliable firearms for the commercial sporting market. The gun is easy to work on and a lighter trigger pull is easy to achieve. They can give you a competition trigger pull which is amazingly light or can give you their "safe carry" pull which is heavier than their competition pull to keep you from negligently discharging the revolver when under the stress of a shooting situation and it is ultra reliable. It's a DAO 2.25" SP101 that was shipped directly to Gemini Customs. The full under lug and bobbed hammer are an excellent start, just some finishing touches really make this a smooth operator. Yes we did. Ruger – SP101 22LR is the 8 shot revolver for an experienced shooter due to its heavy trigger pull, so, if you are new to shooting, this revolver will not be recommended. Or when I’m at the range and have fired many rounds, I practice SA. Its advantage is the ability to change the surface appearance fairly easily. The LCRx 3″ was just a little bit too difficult to conceal. I've also had very good luck with bulk ammo from Freedom Munitions.While porting can be detrimental if you have the gun pressed to your body, I'm not sure it will be such an issue at night compared to the SP101 in .357, as that beast has a tendency to have quite a bright muzzle flash anyway, especially when firing 158 grain ammo.I definitely wouldn't pick one over the other to own, I would choose both. I would like to add another Ruger in 327 Federal in the future, the LCRx, I like the fact of being able to use other 32 valiber ammo in these revolvers. In the country it's loaded with snake shot. I went from an 8 lbs trigger spring to a 9 lbs spring and am very pleased. All gun owners have room in their safe for a Ruger revolver. Thanks, Your email address will not be published. My question is why don’t they offer a blued finish any longer. Check weight and trigger pulls on double and single action. And then it will do it again. I still shoot it weekly, and certainly with every class, so it is not being neglected. Not all durable and reliable firearms need to be coated in Melonite or Cerakote. This leaves us with the trigger pull. Ruger needs to step up their finishing-game. The Ruger SP-101 is a great revolver, but the factory double action trigger pull can be heavy and a bit rough. “If you want to own only one revolver and you donât want to invest any extra time, money, or effort into it, then I suggest you go with a Smith & Wesson.”. Cocking the hammer for single-action shots dropped the pull weight to 4-lb. But first, h. ere's a quick comparison of the S&W 637 and the 2.25 inch and 3 inch barreled Rugers: Let's start with the grips. Been carrying my SP101 2.25 for several months now. Easy does it, though. Somewhere along the way, I picked up a 4" SP101, in .32 H&R. hammer spring, and a new trigger return spring to lighten that pull up a bit. I find revolvers being good for showing on the people on the RKBA fence how to shoot. Kinda have to agree, but it was an enjoyable read, You will not find the article on making your smith into a Ruger…, Except for the million articles\videos about how to deal with the lock…. The grip on the SP101 fits my hand much more comfortably. If you are new to shooting it’s easy to learn with and easy to shoot both .38 and .357. I found that with changing the springs to Wolf reduced power. Even with all the shooting I do, after ten years I am much more accurate and comfortable with the XD. It might be a little on the heavy side, but sometimes a little extra weight can be a good thing. I like the weight, balance, portability and accuracy (fiber optic sight) of the SP Ruger. 10 rounds of Remington High Terminal Performance 158 grain +P Lead Hollow Point at 21 feet. you can still feel where the trigger reset engages on the release of the trigger but isn’t offensive at all. To carry this revolver daily, buy a high quality holster that fits both your body and the gun , and plan on carrying a couple of speedloaders or speed strips. The very first target you said 21 yards. The above target shows 5 rounds of Winchester PDX 1 Defender +P 130 Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point ammo fired at 21 feet. Chambering not chamfering. This requires a lot of practice. I’ve known people that, in some cases, bought a revolver as their only gun decades ago. All have their place in filling my revolver “needs”. So, was the extra work I had done on the SP101 worth it and how much did it cost? S&W is different. “If youâre looking for a gun to introduce a girlfriend, wife, or all-around novice into the world of firearms, the SP101 is a perfect choice (or any other double action revolver for that matter).”. With products made in America, Ruger offers consumers almost 800 variations of more than 40 product lines. At that distance, sight accuracy becomes a moot point because point shooting is more than likely what will be happening in such a high stress scenario. “…the best way I would recommend to carry this gun would be in a small pocket book, with an extremely long and strong strap…”. Yeah, got to come in on this section here. You can change the grips out for rubber, wood, Crimson Trace, whatever you might fancy. I love watching people argue over which is best; Ruger or S&W. While brushed stainless steel is good for everyday abuse because it hides scratches, we’re not talking about a Viking’s battle axe anymore. Which model Bianchi holster is that? – 120 grit foam sanding block They’ve fired it once at the range to make sure it works and then it has lived in a sock drawer or closet shelf since. I say even a .380 beats no gun at all. Also 100% American made with American materials by Americans. +1. Since she off body carries the weight isn’t an issue. I’m a certified firearms instructor, and I teach a lot of women, many of them first time novices. The SP101 is not a pistol, it’s a revolver. And I guarantee that one well aimed hit at distance will mean a whole lot more to Mr. Bad Guy than waiting to smell his bad breath and touch his belly. I will not even attempt to fire the .357magnum loads because I can’t control the gun that way. I had him do the action job (minus porting), hard chrome and custom Bolivian Rosewood grips...she was beautiful. Cocking the hammer for single-action shots dropped the pull weight … Do note, however, that by installing a 10 lb. I presently carry a Ruger SP101 with a DA trigger pull of about 14 pounds. I love both of them but if I had to choose one to carry it would be the S&W Shield, simply because of the inherent advantages to a semi-auto, mainly the larger capacity and quick reloading of a spare magazine. It is surprisingly soft shooting with all of the factory and hand loads I’ve used. I had all the same work done to it as I did with with the 3 inch model. So what I do need is pretty much the opposite. Shooting, I did loose some accuracy at 15″ between the LCRx 3″ and the SP101 2.25″. Robust is a fundamental quality of most Rugers and the owner can class ’em up easily enough but it’s probably impossible to toughen up a smith or colt at home. huh? Once that’s done, the gun has been completely transformed from a baseball bat with nails in it to a 6′ Claymore. Once they take that first shot you know you’ve at least opened their mind a little. http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101DE/specSheets/5774.html. Remington High Terminal Performance 158 grain +P, Speer 135 grain +P Short Barrel Gold Dot Hollow Point. Too bulky. It will get the job done. It’s bulky as heck but I won’t be *carrying* it. I have about 10 hrs of work in my SP 101 and would have loved it had someone told me to up the power on the trigger spring. 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